Mahindra Holidays to add 1,000 rooms

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Thursday, June 13, 2013.

Vacation ownership company Mahindra Holidays plans to add over 1,000 apartments to its existing portfolio of 2,500 in the next two years.

Though the company didn’t share investment details, a top official said it had spent Rs 500 crore on adding a similar number in the last two years.

Rajiv Sawhney, CEO, Mahindra Holidays & Resorts India, said, “We currently have 10 sites with development potential. While some are pure part of our land bank, a few others are existing properties with potential for room additions. The 1,000 rooms added in the last couple of years were on the base of 1,400 rooms, which is over 70% increase in room availability for our members.”

A part of the Mahindra Group, the company currently owns 70% of the 2,500 rooms in its portfolio, while the balance is on long-term lease.

The additions were made in a concentrated manner across domestic destinations including Goa, Kerala, Himachal Pradesh, Jaisalmer and Udaipur. Bangkok and Dubai were were added in overseas destinations.

“We are actively pursuing something in Sri Lanka and will take a call on it in a year,” said Sawhney.

Targeting customers in the 30-35 year age group, the company will aggressively use the digital medium to reach out and convert them into memberships. Mahindra Holidays has also restructured its product offerings by discontinuing Zest (for senior citizens) and Mahindra Homestays vertical.

It has been consistently adding 17,000 members in the last two fiscals and currently has a total membership of 165,000. The cost of buying a Club Mahindra membership is in Rs 2-18 lakh range and has increased 10% year on year. Sawhney said the increase is mainly due to inflation.

It has made structural changes in terms of customer acquisition and will largely look at referrals, social/digital and company websites for fresh membership acquisition.

Sun to pay Pfizer, Takeda Rs 3K cr over Protonix patent

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Thursday, June 13, 2013.

Sun Pharmaceutical Industries will pay as much as Rs 3,178 crore ($550 million) this year as its share of the settlement reached with US-based Pfizer Inc and Japan’s Takeda Pharma in the case of patent infringement relating to generic Protonix, a blockbuster acid reflux medicine.

Israel’s Teva will pay a further $1.6 billion – half this year and half in the next – taking the total payout to $2.15 billion.

The patent on Protonix was held by Nycomed, now a Takeda subsidiary. Protonix was licensed to Wyeth, which is now owned by Pfizer.

Of the $2.15 billion, Pfizer will receive 64% ($1.38 billion) and Takeda the rest ($774 million).

The settlement comes after a nearly 10-year legal battle, Pfizer said in a statement.

While a jury in New Jersey federal court determined that the generic launches by Teva and Sun violated US patent, the parties in litigation reached the settlement shortly after the commencement of a trial to determine damages in the same court. 

As part of the settlement, both Teva and Sun admitted their sales of generic pantoprazole infringed the patent that was held valid by the court. As a result, Teva and Sun will now compensate Pfizer’s subsidiary Wyeth and Takeda for damages suffered.

Pfizer officials were not available to share further details.

Sun Pharma officials were also not available for comment. However, the company said in a statement that the New Jersey court began a jury trial on June 3. “This settlement now culminates the ongoing litigation. Sun Pharma can continue to sell its generic pantoprazole in the US,” it said.

In February, Teva had said it may face legal losses of up to $2.07 billion to resolve the case. Sun Pharma on its part had set aside Rs 584 crore ($100 million) towards potential damages to Pfizer. However, it will now have to pay additional $450 million in final settlement.

Analysts don’t see it as a positive out-of-court settlement for Sun Pharma.

“The agreed amount is way too high for such a settlement. It will also restrict Sun’s ability to look for acquisitions,” Daljeet Kohli, head of research at brokerage IndiaNivesh, told Reuters.

However, according to Suruchi Jain, equity research analyst - pharma, Morningstar India, paying up $550 million should not be an issue for Sun Pharma, considering it is sitting on $1 billion cash. “The company has enough cash as $740 million are with Sun Pharma and the balance is on Taro’s books. Sun may, however, have to raise more debt for any acquisitions it plans to do in this fiscal. Considering that Sun is practically a debt-free company, raising money should not be an issue as well.”

But with cash balance reducing by $550 million, Sun Pharma’s valuations are likely to take a hit.

“But it won’t be a huge hit. Rough estimates indicate reduction in its valuation by about 3%,” said Jain. With agencies

Road developers see polls slowing NHAI awards

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Wednesday, June 12, 2013.

Road developers are set to see challenging business environment continuing this fiscal as the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI), which missed project award targets in the last year by a huge margin, may not meet them due to elections ahead.

“On one side the government may try to implement things quickly, but by the time it happens the model code of conduct will come into play,”  said a senior Hindustan Construction Co official.

There are just six months left as post December this year the entire government machinery will come to standstill, he said.

Analysts too said while the build operate and transfer (BOT) projects will be constrained due to economic slowdown and fund crunch, the engineering procurement and construction (EPC) projects would slow due to elections.

Parvez Qazi, equity research analyst, Edelweiss Capital, said,  “A tough economic environment will constrain BOT awards. Achieving the fiscal 2014 target hinges largely on award of 3,500-4,000 km EPC projects. The timing of central and state elections will also cast its shadow on the project award,” Qazi said in a recent report.

The Ministry of Road Transport and Highways had set an ambitious target of awarding 8,800 km of road length in fiscal 2013, which was raised by the Prime Minister Office to 9,500 km.

NHAI, however, was able to award only 1,112 km projects.

For this fiscal, the road ministry has again set an ambitious target of awarding  9,000 km projects, about 50% through the EPC route.

“The target seems to be unachievable, given the continued impediments faced by the road sector. Delay in obtaining land, forest and environmental clearances, coupled with a slowdown, continue to hit projects,” CARE Ratings analyst Supriya Shetty said in a report on Tuesday.

CARE sees projects with the length of about 3,000 km being awarded this fiscal with some momentum on EPC mode.

On the BOT front, Qazi expects the project award to remain subdued (1,500-2,000 km), mainly due to the precarious financial condition of most developers and the need for regulatory clarity.

“EPC project award of 3,500-4,000 km is a definite possibility, provided elections do not play spoilsport,” Qazi said in the report.

Mukund Sapre, ED, IL&FS Transportation that specialises in BOT projects, said there was nothing really happening in the BOT space.

“A few bids have come but they have viability issues. A few more projects are likely to be announced, but we’ll have to wait and watch,” Sapre told dna.

While NHAI may have seen some success on the EPC with 4-5 projects seeing good response, industry sources said that companies that bid for these projects have quoted 30% below the average industry rates.

The HCC official said, “We don’t know if that’s sustainable in the long term. That’s one reason serious players aren’t participating in these bids. Going forward, large EPC jobs will have to be treated very cautiously. On the public-private partnership front, I don’t see much improvement as well, and with the elections just around the corner, things are only looking grim.”

Phase 2 digitisation spoils seen in 3-4 months

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Monday, June 10, 2013.

Benefits of the Phase 2 cable television digitisation are seen accruing to the books of leading broadcasters, multi-system operators (MSO) and direct-to-home (DTH) service providers as early as next quarter.

“We see a higher likelihood of cable TV average revenue per user (Arpu) increase in the next 3-4 months as MSOs introduce direct billing systems and begin charging on a gross basis (versus net basis currently). This may lead to higher DTH tariffs as well, which are usually pegged to the cable TV Arpus,” Sachin Salgaonkar, Paras Mehta, Swosti Chatterjee and Piyush Mubayi, equity analysts at Goldman Sachs India, said in a note dated June 5.

According to the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting (I&B),  over 85% of digitisation has been achieved in the 38 cities post the Phase 2 digital addressable system (DAS) deadline of March 31. While 15 cities have achieved nearly 100%, 24 cities in all have achieved more than 75% and 34 cities have achieved more than 50% digitisation.

With Phase 2 digitisation nearing completion, the market has seen a higher degree of consumer awareness, which is likely to ensure a smooth transition to digital systems in Phase 3 and Phase 4 rollouts. However, DTH companies are set to see greater traction than digital cable in the balance phases as majority of the Phase 3 and 4 locations do not have sufficient digital cable infrastructure to ensure smooth service delivery.

The Goldman Sachs analysts have thus reiterated ‘buy’ on Dish TV, saying the DTH leader is expected to benefit from Arpu increases in the medium term.

The I&B ministry said in a statement in April that against the targeted 1.6 crore set-top boxes (STBs) in Phase 2 digitisation, 1.36 crore STBs have been installed by the MSOs and DTH operators. As of April, the total number of installed cable TV STBs stood at 91.5 lakh compared with 44.5 lakh for DTH operators.

Industry experts are of the view that while DTH/MSOs continue seeding of STBs, the MSOs are almost in the last leg of finalising commercial contracts with broadcasters and local cable operators. Also, the broadcasters are likely to benefit over the longer term as current DAS contracts are for shorter terms (12-18 months), leaving room to renegotiate on a per subscriber basis as and when seeding achieves completion and more subscribers are added.

The Goldman Sachs report quoted Zee top management (from March quarter earnings call) as saying, “subscription revenue during the quarter has been the highest ever and the digitisation rollout will only improve in the medium term...”

The bulk of the 25.6% growth in subscription revenues, Zee management had said, was from domestic subscription revenues. The broadcaster expects a larger part of the growth to unravel in the Phase 3 and Phase 4 of digitisation.

“We note that broadcasters like Zee saw revenue increase earlier than MSOs as they renewed contracts under DAS, whereas MSOs started seeing revenue uplift led by seeding of boxes and activation revenues from Phase 1 and 2 of digitisation. With MSOs launching DAS packages, we expect Arpus to increase their billing system under DAS leading to revenue uplift for DTH operators,” the Goldman Sachs analysts said.

Sanjay Goyal, chief financial officer, Siti Cable Networks, said in a March-quarter earnings call that major digital cable players were in concerted play to expand their reach on the ground. “DAS cities and towns are getting stabilised gradually and we are already seeing majority of the collections for the first 3-4 months starting to flow into the system. While pricing has been increased, we expect it getting reflected either in the month of June or July. Also, tier-based pricing (ranging from Rs 100 + taxes to Rs 267 + taxes) has been finalised, which will get implemented in the next few months,” he said.

Foreign retailers can't have franchise setup, says government

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Friday, Jun 7, 2013.

Foreign multi-brand retailers will not be allowed to take the franchise route for expansion in the country, the government announced on Thursday.

“Front-end stores set up by MBRT (multi-brand retail trading) entity will have to be company-owned and company-operated only,” the Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion said in a clarification issued to global retailers such as Walmart, Tesco and Carrefour.

Further, these retailers will have to set up new front-end stores rather than through acquisition of existing stores, the DIPP said. Nor can they use the e-commerce route to sell their ware.

Industry experts said the government hasn’t done anything more than just reiterating the policy and giving its stand on the same.

“They have upheld the primacy of the state governments, clarified that MBRT and wholesale activity will be kept distinct, investment in back-end infrastructure will have to be additional and greenfield, the back-end company must be held 100% by the foreign MBR, procurement of fresh produce has not been covered etc,” said Vivek Gupta, partner - mergers and acquisitions (M&A) practice, BMR Advisors.

That puts paid to the retailers’ hopes that the government will define back-end infrastructure anew and clarify on sharing of back-end infrastructure such as supply chain, warehouses and cold storages, he said.

Goldie Dhama, associate director – regulatory services, PwC, also rued the lack of any new announcement. While the government has made it clear that 50% investment in back-end infrastructure will need to be made afresh and that such back-end infrastructure can be set up anywhere in the country, “the stipulation that front-end stores will have to be set up new and not through acquisition of existing stores will impact M&A in the sector and ability of Indian retailers to attract FDI in their existing businesses”, he said.

“Some other aspects like restricting sourcing from small and medium enterprises only for retail business, inability of the company to undertake business-to-business trade or appoint franchisees, etc do not seem to be business friendly,” said Dhama.

Some see the stipulation that foreign retailers can only have company-owned and operated stores as an opportunity for the real estate sector.

“That’s one way of looking at it, but do we really have that kind of infrastructure to cater to the requirement of these very large foreign multi-brand retailers? Where will they find a 3-4 lakh square foot of retail space to exclusively house their MBR stores in India?” asked an official from an international consultancy.

Cadila launching new drug that lowers cholesterol in diabetic patients and helps in glycemic control

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Thursday, Jun 6, 2013.

Cadila Healthcare has announced the launch of the first new chemical entity (NCE) developed by an Indian pharmaceutical company — Lipaglyn — a drug that will help in lowering cholesterol in diabetic patients and in glycemic control.

The company expects the drug to be a blockbuster, garnering $1 billion in annual sales.

Pankaj R Patel, chairman and managing director, Zydus Cadila, said Lipaglyn is Cadila’s dream molecule to travel the lab-to-market drug discovery phases.
“We expect Lipaglyn to be a blockbuster drug reaching $1 billion in annual sales globally. While the pricing and distribution aspects are being currently worked out, we are looking to introduce it in India by third quarter of this fiscal,” said Patel.

The drug which has active ingredient Saroglitazar has been approved by the Drug Controller General of India. According to company officials, it is the first glitazar to be approved in the world and the first new chemical entity (NCE) discovered and developed indigenously by an Indian pharma company. Cadila will have a 20-year patent for Lipaglyn across the globe.

Lipaglyn is prescribed for Diabetic Dyslipidemia, a condition where diabetic has elevated levels of the total cholesterol.

Analysts, however, gave thumbs-down to the plan as they were expecting the company to out-license the molecule to a pharma MNC.

Ranjit Kapadia, senior vice-president - pharma, Centrum Broking, said, “Cadila would have received $10-15 million upfront payment if the management would have licenced the molecule to an MNC. Besides, the company will be marketing the product in India where patented products do not carry major premium as compared with Europe and US markets. As a result the upside is limited.”

Cadila officials said 1,000 clinical trials were conducted for the drug in India against 300 prescribed by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
However, analysts said launching in India doesn’t mean much as clinical trials here are not as stringent as the developed markets.

“Standards of trials in India are not that great and it will be a long-drawn process to get it approved by the US FDA. A lot will also depend on the success of the molecule in the market,” said a pharma analyst from an international brokerage.

In India, the company expects Lipaglyn to be in the top 50 drugs in the segment with a targeted sales of Rs 100 crore in the next 3-5 years. Overseas, the company sees regulatory approvals in some emerging and developed markets coming in next 12-24 months.

“We will also initiate clinical trials for markets like Europe and US and have earmarked $150-200 million. We will look for a marketing partner for sales/distribution of this drug there,” said Ganesh Nayak, COO & ED, Cadila.

Cadila is also working on eight more molecules. It has thus far spent $250 million towards these developments, including Lipaglyn.

It will continue to spend 6-7% of its annual revenues on research and development apart from Rs 500 crore capital expenditure.

ZeeQ to bring back CBeebies

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Wednesday, Jun 5, 2013.

BBC Worldwide is set to re-enter the pre-school edutainment broadcasting in India. The main commercial arm and a wholly owned subsidiary of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has inked an agreement with Zee Group’s edutainment channel ZeeQ to broadcast content from its pre-school brand CBeebies.

ZeeQ is India’s only edutainment channel for kids in the age group of 4-14 years. On the other hand, CBeebies is a pre-school brand aimed at children aged six years and below.

Subhadarshi Tripathy, business head, ZeeQ, said the CBeebies content is very relevant for ZeeQ considering the channels also follow the same principals in selecting and producing content.

“The arrangement is not only getting the content on to our channel, but also having CBeebies as a band on ZeeQ,” said Tripathy.

The CBeebies brand will launch on the ZeeQ channel starting July 1, 2013. Currently, ZeeQ is available on Dish TV and Videocon d2h in addition to all the leading multi-system operators across the country.

Tripathy said that ZeeQ pays for the content with BBC Worldwide while handling the air-time sales. “This we will do in agreement with BBC Worldwide following a set of dos and don’ts as prescribed by them,” he said.

Myleeta Aga, senior vice-president and general manager - India and content head -  Asia, BBC Worldwide, said that partnering with ZeeQ brings CBeebies’ favourite programmes back to Indian TV screens.

“The CBeebies time band on ZeeQ is just the beginning of our partnership. We look forward to working with Zee to continue to bring popular and award-winning CBeebies programmes to ZeeQ,” said Aga.

Calling it a long-term association, ZeeQ officials said that this license agreement will see CBeebies programmes – Teletubbies, 3rd & Bird and Charlie and Lola – being aired on ZeeQ from Mondays to Thursdays for an hour (between 9:30 am and 10.30 am), with a two-hour repeat telecast on weekends (between 11.00 am  and 1.00 pm).

The association will help ZeeQ tap the pre-school segment (0-3 years) as well and strengthen its current portfolio of programmes.

The channel currently airs a mix of live action and animated shows. Some of its prominent shows include Teenovation, Science with BrainCafe, Amar Chitra Katha Heroes, Sid the Science Kid, The Weekly Wrap and Word Match.

Cement companies may hike prices this month

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Wednesday, Jun 5, 2013.

Cement firms may raise prices this month as the demand is showing signs of improvement and also because they are looking to gain a price edge ahead of the lean monsoon season.

“Discussions are happening on increasing prices by Rs 10-15 per bag. My sense is that cement companies would increase prices by Rs 10, if not more,” said an industry source requesting anonymity.

Cement firms have been unable to pass on rise in costs — railway freight charges rose last year (25% weighted average) and coal prices have gone up 10% — due to lacklustre demand.

Sudhir Bidkar, CFO, JK Lakshmi Cement, said prices in April were lower than the March quarter, but things improved post mid-May.

“We have been able to at least get back to the realisation levels witnessed in March, particularly from the middle of May. While sustaining it, we are also looking for signs of improvement in demand to be able to increase prices,” Bidkar said during the fourth-quarter earnings call last week.

Though Bidkar did not quantify the extent of price hike, he said it will only be possible if demand pick up.

“There have been various reasons — like shortage of labour and excessive heat — for not being able to increase cement prices. However, with labour now starting to come back, one can hope there will be a price increase to some extent in June,” said Bidkar.

Analysts said given that June to September is a lean season, cement companies generally increase prices before monsoon sets in. This approach helps them arrest decline in prices, giving them a bargaining window for monsoon sales.

“The peak season this year has been really bad for the sector with prices under considerable pressure owing to subdued demand. Sales in monsoon may get further fall leading to more pressure on pricing. The pre-monsoon price increase mainly helps in maintaining the price levels,” said an analyst with a domestic brokerage.

In fact, markets in south India like Andhra Pradesh, which saw the biggest price decline in April, saw price increases of Rs 10-30 per month, the analyst said.

Cement, unlike consumer products, has traditionally had its pricing based on expenses that are externally influenced.

“It’s totally a demand-supply driven market unless you influence it adversely through some changes either in demand supply or in costs. While there are cost pressures, at the same time it is not as though the seasons are behaving traditionally. And with monsoon approaching we should be getting into a lean season, but then this year has also sort of bucked the seasonal trend,” said an official from one of the top cement makers.

Dr Reddy's, Fujifilm call off alliance

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Tuesday, Jun 4, 2013.

Dr Reddy’s and Fujifilm have called off their partnership to tap the generic drugs market in Japan after almost two years of planning and market analysis.

The companies had in July 2011 inked a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with plans to seta joint venture for developing and manufacturing drugs in Japan and had even conducted studies on business aspects.

“However, as Fujifilm realigns its long-term growth strategy for the pharmaceutical business, both companies have led to a mutual agreement to terminate the MoU,” the companies said in a joint statement on Monday.

GV Prasad, chairman and CEO, Dr Reddy’s Laboratories, called it an unfortunate development. “However, I want to reinforce our commitment towards a planned entry into Japan to bring affordable and innovative drugs to more patients worldwide,” he said.

The companies will continue to explore partnerships in other pharmaceutical businesses, the statement said.

“In the long-term we will be focusing more on priority fields such as new drugs in cancer, more value-added super generic,” said Takatoshi Ishikawa, director corporate vice-president and general manager of pharma products division, Fujifilm.

Analysts made light of the development. “We haven’t changed our estimates on Dr Reddy’s given the JV does not contribute anything,” said Sarabjit Kour Nangra, VP-Research, Pharma, Angel Broking.

When Rakesh Jhunjhunwala grilled Aurobindo Pharma brass with some hard questions

This story first appeared in DNA Money edition on Monday, Jun 3, 2013.

It was a ‘rare’ occasion when Rakesh Jhunjhunwala, partner in asset management firm Rare Enterprise, logged into the fourth-quarter earnings call of Aurobindo Pharma on Friday. The multi-billionaire investor was raring to ask the company’s top management some hard questions and pounced on the opportunity as soon as the operator unmuted his line. Here’s what followed, verbatim:

Rakesh Jhunjhunwala (RJ): I’d like to know how much is your net foreign currency (dollar) receipts, considering you have a sale of Rs 5,800 crore, of which Rs 5,000 crore is from overseas markets. What are your expenses really like, out of this Rs 5,000 crore?

Robert Cunard (RC), CEO, Aurobindo USA: It may be in the range of $250-300 million... I mean exports minus imports and other expenditure in the foreign currency for the year as a whole.

RJ: Right. So what is your net foreign exchange receipts?

RC: In the range of $250-275 million, in import expenditure.

RJ: Import expenditure is about $300 million?

RC: No. Net foreign receipts in dollars is in the range of $250-275 million.

RJ: That means your gross receipts is Rs 5,000 crore, which is nearly $900 million, and you are incurring $600 million expenditure outside India?

(Pin-drop silence from the Aurobindo Pharma side for 15 seconds)

Sudhir Singhi (SS), CFO, Aurobindo Pharma: In that number, domestic sales worth Rs 1,493 crore is there as well.

RJ: Foreign sales is Rs 4,500...

SS: Yes, Rs 4,000 crore is exports sales.

RJ: Rs 4,000 crore is export sales, that means about $750 million.

SS: Rs 4,000 crore divided by 55... that is approximately $725 million.

RJ: Then your expenses is about $400 million?

SS: Sir, that includes the import of raw material for API, which could be a considerable number. This could be a couple of hundred million dollars.

RJ: But you are following I’m told... And, what is your debt in foreign exchange?

SS: Our debt in foreign exchange is approximately $600 million.

RJ: So, you don’t have a natural cover on the debt, no?

SS: No no... Sir, what happened, see, we don’t hedge it from the operations. We have a surplus of about $300 million for which we take for trade operations a working capital borrowing in foreign currency, which is approximately $330-340 million. So, as far as operations are concerned, we are fully hedged.

RJ: No no, but your debt is $700 million, no? What is your debt in foreign exchange?

SS: Yes, the remaining debt (term loan) is repayable somewhere in the years 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20, so we are having a natural hedge by growing exports over a period of time.

RJ: Therefore, are you dividing your forex debt into two parts – one which is payable in the near future or is a permanent debt or one which is payable after a certain period of time?

SS: Yes, we are dividing it into two parts. The debt which is falling (due for) maturity over a period of one year is considered to be sort of working capital or including working capital, short-term loan. If you see that portion, which is about $350-375 million including debt repayable within one year, against which we have an extra hedge, net from the trade operations, i.e. exports minus import...

RJ: Yes, I understand that. But then the balance $300 million debt which is payable over the next 4-5 years, how are you accounting for the loss in foreign exchange there? You are passing it through the profit and loss (P&L) account or capitalising it?

SS: No, we are not capitalising it. Whatever the loss is there – quarter end as well as year end – we restate and charge the difference to the P&L account. So this year, you see our loss on account of forex is being accounted in the P&L account.

RJ: That means if the dollar goes up, you are a net loser.

SS: We will be the loser on the restatement of the loss, notionally.

RJ: If you are charging it to the P&L account, that means today dollar has gone up from Rs 54 as of March 31 to Rs 56.5, so to that extent, on your one-year loan, your loss is covered. But for $300 million, you will have to provide it in the balance sheet.

SS: Yes, every one rupee depreciation on the dollar we would be losing on the restatement Rs 30 crore. For instance, from Rs 54 to Rs 56 today, we are losing Rs 2. As on date if we account for it in our P&L account, we will be the loser by Rs 60 crore.

RJ: On the entire debt?

SS: On the entire debt of $700 million.

RJ: You also have a choice wherein you can differentiate a long-term debt as short-term? Why don’t you charge the loss on long-term debt directly to your balance sheet?

SS: Because we have not exercised the option which the government has given – I recollect two years ago – so we decided as per the accounting standards in the
Institute of chartered accountants that we charge it to the P&L account.

RJ: But that’s not a true reflection of your profits, no?

SS: It isn’t, but please understand that we classify the portion of the forex as interest. So, our interest cost on foreign currency is only 3.75% and if you add the rupee depreciation that has happened, 6.7%, the interest cost would have been 9%, which is nothing, but if we could have taken loan in INR (rupee), our cost would be 9-10%.

RJ: What kind of sales growth are you expecting this fiscal?

N Govindarajan (NG), MD, Aurobindo Pharma: We are clear that it should be over 20%.

RJ: So, that will mean sales of around Rs 7,000 crore.

NG: Yes sir. It will be a little over that number.

RJ: What kind of a margin improvement are you indicating?

NG: We don’t talk about specific numbers, but I’ll put it that we are expecting a minimum improvement of 200-300 basis points in fiscal 2013-14.

RJ: Does cash flow on your budgeted profit allow for any debt repayment?

NG: Yes sir.

RJ: What’s your plan? How much debt do you want to repay?

SS: As we said, we have about $47.5 million loan coming for repayment, which we are confident of repaying in the current year and the rest will continue.

RJ: That means you are repaying $50 million this year?

SS: That’s right sir.

RJ: Ok sir. Thank you.

(Sigh of relief from Aurobindo officials)